Sarge users: Do you run XFree86 or a backport of Xorg?

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun 5 Mar 2006

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XFree86  <-> 39%182 votes
Backport: Xorg  <-> 31%142 votes
I dont do X  <-> 29%134 votes
Total 458 votes

Posted by Steve (82.41.xx.xx) on Sun 5 Mar 2006 at 18:16
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I run Sarge on one machine which uses X (a laptop) and I really don't see the point of running with a backport.

Whilst it is true that there are newer drivers, and all the composite/transparency stuff is being developed for X.org the X11 code still works just fine for me.

Upgrading for no particular reason is pretty much against the idea of Debian Stable - so I've kept it as-is.

I'd be curious to know what would make anybody upgrade to a backport ..? (Other than better hardware support, I guess that would be understandable.)

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Posted by Anonymous (72.192.xx.xx) on Sun 5 Mar 2006 at 21:24
I've been waiting for xorg to be added to Stable as well. I had xorg on my laptop when it was running Testing but I switched it over to Stable because of cascading problems that I didn't feel like dealing with.

If I recall correctly, wasn't xorg to be added to Sarge sometime around Nov/Dec of '05?

I've been checking Debian Weekly News but not a word on xorg lately.

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Posted by mvanbaak (80.126.xx.xx) on Mon 6 Mar 2006 at 18:24
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I used to run X.org on my sarge laptop untill some racecondition in the X.org, ati binary driver, xfs rendered some binaries with garbage made me restore from backups. I decided my 3 times dist-upgraded machine was deserving a new install and went with all sarge and dotdeb.
I don't see any real difference with the old install, so I'll look into X.org again when etch is nearing stable phase.

To comment on the third option: X is nice, gives you more room for terminals ;)
Just see it as a really big fb console with support for multi terms on one monitor.

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Posted by Anonymous (81.242.xx.xx) on Tue 7 Mar 2006 at 09:52
Anyone can tell me why using X ?? I've bought my Proliant 1600 with a ... NT4 ... Why the hell would I using X if I'm not worried about typing my own scripts and all admin job on console ? ... Slowing donwn a server for pleasure isn't my cup of tea ! Anyway, if it was, ... I probably kept the NT4 ;) Isn't it ?
So, Thanks Sarge, Thanks Ded. Thanks Ian, ... thanks all, ... I'm trying to Sarge's a 5500 now :)
Donn.

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Posted by Anonymous (158.193.xx.xx) on Tue 7 Mar 2006 at 10:19

yes, I can tell you why using X. it does have some nice desktop features over getty. and it usualy doesn't slow down my servers as I usualy don't install it on servers, I only use X server on desktop.

however, you can find some X clients on my server machine - nice example is ethereal. its great to have graphical sniffer on my desk knowing it runs on 4way computer 250km far away. I think it doesn't slow down my server...

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Posted by Anonymous (80.126.xx.xx) on Tue 7 Mar 2006 at 23:50
None of my servers are running xfree/x.org
But there are ppl out there (like me) that use Debian on their desktops as well.
I only use it to create some more space for xterms and firefox. But that's just me.

I agree that running X on your server is not advisable, since it comes with a lot of libraries, executables and a real big fat server. So you will have to take this into account when securing the box.
For a workstation it has some use tho.
links2 does a great job when it comes to web browsing, but it lacks css2 and most of javascript, so most web2.0 stuff won't show up. Running firefox or konquerer (or whatever modern browser) is the only sollution for this. Hence the X setup.

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Posted by hypatia (199.223.xx.xx) on Tue 7 Mar 2006 at 14:34
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I've never gotten over the experience of trying to get X working on a laptop running Potato. I still have the occasional horrific flashback when configuring X during any Linux installation.

I don't do X on my dozen or so Sarge servers.

For my current Laptop, I use Ubuntu.

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Posted by maxamillion (158.135.xx.xx) on Tue 7 Mar 2006 at 19:26
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I attempted Xorg for a short while and it would crash everytime the screen saver would run and I would have to kill my X server. So, I then re-thought to myself "if the debian developer community hasn't said it to be stable, its not fscking stable." .... thus, I run Xfree

/me

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Posted by Anonymous (205.183.xx.xx) on Wed 8 Mar 2006 at 17:30
Since I run newer hardware I use Xorg for all of my graphics chipsets since they are fully supported. I have no problems using a backport but I'd wish Debian would speed up its fixes and patch process.

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Posted by fisher (194.63.xx.xx) on Thu 9 Mar 2006 at 16:32
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xfree does not know nothing about my laptop's videocard.

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