Non-DFSG stuff on my compter
Submitted by joostje on Sat 3 Jun 2006
| Nothing |
   5% | 35 votes |
| I am RMS (Only the gcc etc manuals) |
4% | 29 votes |
| lame, mplayer, libdvdcss, java |
52% | 341 votes |
| skype, opera, realplayer, google earth |
11% | 75 votes |
| My other partition contains Windows |
25% | 164 votes |
| Total 644 votes |
Posted by Steve (62.30.xx.xx) on Sat 3 Jun 2006 at 15:37
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If you're curious about what RMS would say you can use the Virtual RMS package:
My (new!) main machine:
skx@desktop:~$ vrms
Non-free packages installed on desktop
nvidia-glx NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver
Reason: Proprietary license
nvidia-kernel-2.6.16-2-k7 NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.16-2-k7
nvidia-kernel-source NVIDIA binary kernel module source
3 non-free packages, 0.3% of 1003 installed packages.
My old desktop machine itchy.my.flat shows exactly the same, although the laptop I got given for work also includes ndiswrapper.
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I got 10 shown up by vrms, digikam-docs, picasa and the rest are sun java related.
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Posted by Anonymous (80.35.xx.xx) on Sat 3 Jun 2006 at 21:09
Lots of stuff:
nVidia driver
Maromedia Flash player
Java virtual machine
Mplayer
Lame
libdvdcss
Acrobat reader
Real player
dvdrtools
POV-Ray
And also some games. Oh, and a Windows partition I rarely use.
nVidia driver
Maromedia Flash player
Java virtual machine
Mplayer
Lame
libdvdcss
Acrobat reader
Real player
dvdrtools
POV-Ray
And also some games. Oh, and a Windows partition I rarely use.
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Posted by Anonymous (81.57.xx.xx) on Tue 6 Jun 2006 at 13:14
Btw, vrms is a bit hard to qualify non-free softwares: Mplayer, Lame and libdvdcss are all Free (in both the sense of FSF and OSDL). The only glitches are that the concept they implement are subject to patents in USA (but not in EU, where software patents doesn't apply).
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Not a lot really.
I do have mplayer and libdvdcss, not that I use them much.
Java is installed, and again not used much - though that should now be Debian approved.
I have RealPlayer and Opera. Real Player is pretty rubbish, but at least it sort of works and I can see stuff with it. Opera is a pretty nice even though it's closed, and I do use it for web site testing now and then.
My biggest gripe though is the Nvidia binary stuff. The worst thing with it, is that it's such a pain to fiddle with every time the kernel, xorg or Nvidia upgrades in Etch I have to mess manually with it all, and it's not a reliable thing to do.
--
"It's Not Magic, It's Work"
Adam
I do have mplayer and libdvdcss, not that I use them much.
Java is installed, and again not used much - though that should now be Debian approved.
I have RealPlayer and Opera. Real Player is pretty rubbish, but at least it sort of works and I can see stuff with it. Opera is a pretty nice even though it's closed, and I do use it for web site testing now and then.
My biggest gripe though is the Nvidia binary stuff. The worst thing with it, is that it's such a pain to fiddle with every time the kernel, xorg or Nvidia upgrades in Etch I have to mess manually with it all, and it's not a reliable thing to do.
--
"It's Not Magic, It's Work"
Adam
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Posted by Anonymous (217.216.xx.xx) on Sat 3 Jun 2006 at 22:10
I have some non-free software running in my Linux boxes but all my computers are MS-Free.
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the default here is we assume ms-free unless specified. (=
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jg@lambda ~ $ vrms
Non-free packages installed on lambda
glimpse search quickly through entire file systems
latex2html LaTeX to HTML translator
mosml Standard ML byte-code interpreter/compiler
opera-static The Opera Web Browser
rar Archiver for .rar files
unrar Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)
Reason: Modifications problematic
xearth Show a rotating earth on your X root window
7 non-free packages, 0.9% of 762 installed packages. And the nvidia binary blob driver that I installed separately. :(
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And my other partition contains Windows.. (I'm a gamer that's my excuse)
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xp on seperate drive here, love my games (hate directx).
non free things in lin would inlude opera but its not free in the same sense, free to download + install thou. Other things would be codecs for mp3 / dvd playback which really is a necessity.
non free things in lin would inlude opera but its not free in the same sense, free to download + install thou. Other things would be codecs for mp3 / dvd playback which really is a necessity.
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edit: running vrms (handy package btw) on server shows: Non-free packages installed on squee rutebook Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online 1 non-free packages, 0.2% of 415 installed packages. Didnt even know i had this installed.
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"No non-free packages installed on derek! rms would be proud."
Some of the packages are not in Debians US repository, but they are free software if encumbered in the US by software patents (whatever they are -- weird idea, patenting numbers).
The main annoyance I have is people who embed perfectly accessible to free software movies inside recent flash formats.
Lack of support for recent flash versions.
BBC multimedia content seems inaccessible as well via free software, or did I miss something?
Free Javas run most Java stuff I try, including Eclipse, but I seem to be able to live without Java except for OpenOffice wizards.
Some of the packages are not in Debians US repository, but they are free software if encumbered in the US by software patents (whatever they are -- weird idea, patenting numbers).
The main annoyance I have is people who embed perfectly accessible to free software movies inside recent flash formats.
Lack of support for recent flash versions.
BBC multimedia content seems inaccessible as well via free software, or did I miss something?
Free Javas run most Java stuff I try, including Eclipse, but I seem to be able to live without Java except for OpenOffice wizards.
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Posted by Anonymous (81.57.xx.xx) on Tue 6 Jun 2006 at 13:18
ben@kitano:~$ vrms
No non-free packages installed on kitano! rms would be proud.
Hehe, who would run non-free stuff on a server ?
No non-free packages installed on kitano! rms would be proud.
Hehe, who would run non-free stuff on a server ?
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If you are running a java application server, you most often run a nonfree JVM.
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Posted by Anonymous (83.58.xx.xx) on Wed 7 Jun 2006 at 20:04
lha, unrar: me and my friends are music junkies, and there's not a lot of vorbis tarballs out there...
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I voted lame/mplayer/libdvdcss and java, even though I've been using Opera since around version 6 as my primary browser. It's nice to see Firefox catching up, but I still prefer Opera as it's snappier on similar hardware.
But in my opinion Opera is much better software than realplayer on many levels; everything from better packaging, better quality, not to mention Opera is on the whole a cool'n'happy'go'lucky kind of develping house, at least compared to Real Networks.
If realnetworks released a free (as in beer) codec that vlc could easily use, I'd probably use it more, as it is, I view it as slighty more evil than quicktime .mov-files/streams ;-)
But in my opinion Opera is much better software than realplayer on many levels; everything from better packaging, better quality, not to mention Opera is on the whole a cool'n'happy'go'lucky kind of develping house, at least compared to Real Networks.
If realnetworks released a free (as in beer) codec that vlc could easily use, I'd probably use it more, as it is, I view it as slighty more evil than quicktime .mov-files/streams ;-)
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Posted by Anonymous (157.92.xx.xx) on Sat 10 Jun 2006 at 01:42
I agree Opera and realplayer should be in different categories. Opera since 2.12 until 7 was my first choice browser but then I knew Firefox also had mouse gestures and saved session history, and crashed less often. It IS slower, but is the best and more flexible.
I voted "my other partition contains Windows" because it's true, but I don't have ANYTHING useful there, just games that refuse to run in Sarge (Battlefield 2, Need for Speed MW, C&C Generals). I'm moving 100% to Linux but games other than UT2004 that run natively in Linux keep my machine Windows infected.
I voted "my other partition contains Windows" because it's true, but I don't have ANYTHING useful there, just games that refuse to run in Sarge (Battlefield 2, Need for Speed MW, C&C Generals). I'm moving 100% to Linux but games other than UT2004 that run natively in Linux keep my machine Windows infected.
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Posted by Anonymous (157.92.xx.xx) on Mon 12 Jun 2006 at 22:05
I agree Opera and realplayer should be in different categories. Opera since 2.12 until 7 was my first choice browser but then I knew Firefox also had mouse gestures and saved session history, and crashed less often. It IS slower, but is the best and more flexible.
I voted "my other partition contains Windows" because it's true, but I don't have ANYTHING useful there, just games that refuse to run in Sarge (Battlefield 2, Need for Speed MW, C&C Generals). I'm moving 100% to Linux but games other than UT2004 that run natively in Linux keep my machine Windows infected.
I voted "my other partition contains Windows" because it's true, but I don't have ANYTHING useful there, just games that refuse to run in Sarge (Battlefield 2, Need for Speed MW, C&C Generals). I'm moving 100% to Linux but games other than UT2004 that run natively in Linux keep my machine Windows infected.
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Posted by Anonymous (157.92.xx.xx) on Mon 12 Jun 2006 at 23:35
I agree Opera and realplayer should be in different categories. Opera since 2.12 until 7 was my first choice browser but then I knew Firefox also had mouse gestures and saved session history, and crashed less often. It IS slower, but is the best and more flexible.
I voted "my other partition contains Windows" because it's true, but I don't have ANYTHING useful there, just games that refuse to run in Sarge (Battlefield 2, Need for Speed MW, C&C Generals). I'm moving 100% to Linux but games other than UT2004 that run natively in Linux keep my machine Windows infected.
I voted "my other partition contains Windows" because it's true, but I don't have ANYTHING useful there, just games that refuse to run in Sarge (Battlefield 2, Need for Speed MW, C&C Generals). I'm moving 100% to Linux but games other than UT2004 that run natively in Linux keep my machine Windows infected.
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Posted by Anonymous (157.92.xx.xx) on Tue 13 Jun 2006 at 21:30
I agree Opera and realplayer should be in different categories. Opera since 2.12 until 7 was my first choice browser but then I knew Firefox also had mouse gestures and saved session history, and crashed less often. It IS slower, but is the best and more flexible.
I voted "my other partition contains Windows" because it's true, but I don't have ANYTHING useful there, just games that refuse to run in Sarge (Battlefield 2, Need for Speed MW, C&C Generals). I'm moving 100% to Linux but games other than UT2004 that run natively in Linux keep my machine Windows infected.
I voted "my other partition contains Windows" because it's true, but I don't have ANYTHING useful there, just games that refuse to run in Sarge (Battlefield 2, Need for Speed MW, C&C Generals). I'm moving 100% to Linux but games other than UT2004 that run natively in Linux keep my machine Windows infected.
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here is what I got
*nix is user friendly... it is just particular about it's friends
doc-html-w3 [EBOOK-DEV] Recommendations of the W3 (Pseudo-Package) doc-linux-nonfree-html Linux HOWTOs in HTML format (non-free) doc-linux-nonfree-text Linux HOWTOs in ASCII format (non-free) ebook-dev-alp [EBOOK-DEV] Advanced Linux Programming gnu-standards GNU coding and package maintenance standards grokking-the-gimp GIMP tutorial book by Carey Bunks (HTML) gs-afpl The AFPL Ghostscript PostScript interpreter lincvs graphical CVS frontend madwifi-source Source of the madwifi kernel module manpages-posix Manual pages about using POSIX system manpages-posix-dev Manual pages about using a POSIX system for developmen mpg123-oss-3dnow MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player for 3DNow! machines opera The Opera Web Browser phpdoc Documentation for PHP4 and PHP3 python-profiler deterministic profiling of any Python programs python2.1-profiler deterministic profiling of any Python programs python2.3-profiler deterministic profiling of any Python programs sattrack-x11 satellite tracker and prediction skype Free Internet Telephony - The whole world can talk for sun-j2re1.5 Java(TM) 2 RE, Standard Edition, Sun Microsystems(TM) w3-recs [EBOOK-DEV] Recommendations of the W3 w3-recs-2002 [EBOOK-DEV] Recommendations of the W3 - Year 2002 w3-recs-2003 [EBOOK-DEV] Recommendations of the W3 - Year 2003 23 non-free packages, 0.9% of 2463 installed packages.Brian
*nix is user friendly... it is just particular about it's friends
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I suck:
gfont
grokking-the-gimp
gsfonts-other
gsn-curses
gsn-jigsaw
gumshoe
rpl
so-far
tatctae
weather
xsnow
I gotta wonder: If you've been doing Unix since before there was Linux, how can you not have xsnow? I used to execute xmas every day in December. To heck with phosphor burn!
gfont
grokking-the-gimp
gsfonts-other
gsn-curses
gsn-jigsaw
gumshoe
rpl
so-far
tatctae
weather
xsnow
I gotta wonder: If you've been doing Unix since before there was Linux, how can you not have xsnow? I used to execute xmas every day in December. To heck with phosphor burn!
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