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Xserver Xorg huh?
Posted by Grimnar on Mon 3 Apr 2006 at 19:54
Hi again everyone. Since my last entry I got my pcmcia nic to work, of course not at boot time. I have to manually configure the card at every boot. Oh well. This time, I will try to make a gui to work on little Dell Inspiron 3800. Been trying to make it work since my last entry but have given this one up. The worst thing is that I feel the same headache now as I did last time I tried to install a xserver, and that was back in ~2000 something. And we are now in 2006 and still this is very hard for a moderate user to install. Now, here is some details. The laptop is a old 2001 Dell I guess, its a 600mhz Celeron with a wopping 8mb og graphics memory on a 15" lcd screen. The gfx is a ATI rage something. My only mouse will be the touchpad as I really have thrown away my other old mouses. Long story short: Normal user
andreas@gwlap:~$ fluxbox Warning: Failed to open file(/usr/share/fluxbox/nls/en_GB/fluxbox.cat) for translation, using default messages. Error: Couldn't connect to XServer andreas@gwlap:~$
andreas@gwlap:~$ openbox (openbox:3573): Openbox-CRITICAL **: Failed to open the display. andreas@gwlap:~$
andreas@gwlap:~$ startx xauth: creating new authority file /home/andreas/.serverauth.3574 X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. giving up. /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the consoleAs root
gwlap:/home/andreas# startx
xauth: creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.3597
X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
X Window System Version 6.9.0 (Debian 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 20060114230205 David Nusinow )
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.9
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.15-1-686 i686 [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux gwlap 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686
Build Date: 14 January 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.8-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Dec 1 22:42:07 2000
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 symbols
> Ignoring extra symbols
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed';
the X server's font paths might be misconfigured, remote font server(s)
may be unreachable, and/or local fonts may not be installed or are not
configured correctly.
People inexperienced with the X Window System should have either the
"x-window-system" or "x-window-system-core" packages installed.
# apt-get install x-window-system-core <-- DoneDone.
# apt-get install x-window-system <-- Done.
Other useful commands to run include:
$ dpkg --status xserver-common
XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
So, why do I paste all the different gui systems? Because I dont want to create any whats-best-gui-entry. So basicly, I just wont *a* working system. And yeah, I used google a lot at this and Im still very confuses. Sorry about that. Hopefully someone could help me out a bit.
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Did you try:
apt-get install x-window-system-core
Or:
apt-get install x-window-system
?
It looks like your X11 (X.org) and Xserver are in place, it just needs the x-window stuff to give it the capability for having windows on the screen. Fluxbox and KDE and GNOME and all those rely on that to function.
Which distro are you running? If Debian (which I would assume it is) which version of Debian? Have you been installing everything with apt-get, or have you been downloading and manually installing packages?
As for the normal user permission thing, not sure about that. :\
-MrFusion
apt-get install x-window-system-core
Or:
apt-get install x-window-system
?
It looks like your X11 (X.org) and Xserver are in place, it just needs the x-window stuff to give it the capability for having windows on the screen. Fluxbox and KDE and GNOME and all those rely on that to function.
Which distro are you running? If Debian (which I would assume it is) which version of Debian? Have you been installing everything with apt-get, or have you been downloading and manually installing packages?
As for the normal user permission thing, not sure about that. :\
-MrFusion
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Hi and thanks for replying.
apt-get install x-window-system-coreYeah, it was kinda bolded out in the previous post, but not that clear.
It looks like your X11 (X.org) and Xserver are in place, it just needs the x-window stuffI really think it's the touchpad and the lcd setup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf that is not working out for me. And maybe I should add a line or two in ~/.xserver-stuff but I really dont know.
to give it the capability for having windows on the screen. Fluxbox and KDE and GNOME
and all those rely on that to function.
Which distro are you running?Im running Debian, yes.
If Debian (which I would assume it is) which version of Debian? Have you been installing
everything with apt-get, or have you been downloading and manually installing packages?
Linux gwlap 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/LinuxAnd yeah, everything is aquired with apt-get.
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I really think it's the touchpad and the lcd setup in /etc/X11/xorg.confYeah, touchpads can be a ton of fun sometimes... Have you tried installing the Synaptics driver? (Easy to find in dselect.) As for the LCD, if you can display to it in text mode, then the only issues you should experience in X would be either totally black screen (without defaulting back to text with errors) or just really low res.
that is not working out for me. And maybe I should add a line or two in
~/.xserver-stuff but I really dont know.
This is all in my own experience though, I've never had a LCD monitor not work in X.
Definitely try what Steve suggested though, too. :)
-MrFusion
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Posted by Steve (82.41.xx.xx) on Mon 3 Apr 2006 at 21:55
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Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'; the X server's font paths might be misconfigured, remote font server(s) may be unreachable, and/or local fonts may not be installed or are not configured correctly.
I've seen that before and the fix is usually one, or both, of:
apt-get install xfonts-75dpi apt-get install xfonts-100dpi
Your other errors are expected by the looks of things. By default only root may run startx, so starting it as non-root was doomed to failure without additional configuration.
The initial steps you show of running fluxbox look like you're just running them without X11 already running - so again I'd expect them to fail.
Personally I'd just run:
apt-get install x-window-system xterm rxvt
The first of these will pull in the fonts and all other required packages, the second two commands will make sure you have a graphical shell.Steve
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Have you tried installing the Synaptics driver?Yeah.
apt-get install xfonts-75dpi apt-get install xfonts-100dpi apt-get install x-window-system xterm rxvtDone. Long time ago.
I can paste my /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it would be of any help.
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He did this, but didn't post any useful errors after doing so.
My guess is that the dialogue options for dpkg are configured to use GNOME, which is presumably why dpkg-reconfigure complains that X isn't running.
To be honest I think the questioner would be better using one of dselects desktop options, rather than blindly installing packages without much understanding. I don't think this reflects a typical desktop experience, the usual X problems are getting graphics card and mouse recognised and these come later.
My guess is that the dialogue options for dpkg are configured to use GNOME, which is presumably why dpkg-reconfigure complains that X isn't running.
To be honest I think the questioner would be better using one of dselects desktop options, rather than blindly installing packages without much understanding. I don't think this reflects a typical desktop experience, the usual X problems are getting graphics card and mouse recognised and these come later.
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Posted by Anonymous (69.128.xx.xx) on Wed 5 Apr 2006 at 04:23
Email your log file to Robert__DOT__Goley__AT__Gmail.com. Also include your xorg.conf file and the output of lspci. I will look over it. You are most likely right about it being a hardware misconfiguration. It is hard to tell without seeing those files what exactly is happening though. Also try to start X using just the direct command. startx is a script that starts more than just the X server. It should be Xorg or you can use the link "/usr/bin/X11/X".
Robert
Robert
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Posted by Anonymous (217.84.xx.xx) on Sun 16 Apr 2006 at 12:01
maybe it helps (just spend half a day to find it out):
the pathes for the fonts changed from
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/
to
/usr/share/fonts/X11/
without notice.
there's somebody amongst the debian-maintainers who hates (the only explanation i found) people doing their own stuff:
after changing from Xorg 6.9 to 7 layout de_CH is not recognized anymore and no information for us who do not create their xorg.conf with debian's tool.
you have to use google to find out that's now
Option "XkbLayout" "ch"
Option "XkbOptions" "de"
same as with the font-pathes ...
"you do not use the tools we generously provide? your fault! do not blame us."
sounds like that software-company from the north-west of the usa ...
the pathes for the fonts changed from
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/
to
/usr/share/fonts/X11/
without notice.
there's somebody amongst the debian-maintainers who hates (the only explanation i found) people doing their own stuff:
after changing from Xorg 6.9 to 7 layout de_CH is not recognized anymore and no information for us who do not create their xorg.conf with debian's tool.
you have to use google to find out that's now
Option "XkbLayout" "ch"
Option "XkbOptions" "de"
same as with the font-pathes ...
"you do not use the tools we generously provide? your fault! do not blame us."
sounds like that software-company from the north-west of the usa ...
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Posted by Anonymous (68.165.xx.xx) on Sat 22 Apr 2006 at 02:54
Just when you thought you were having fun w/ Xorg 6.9 :-)
When installing fonts in Xorg 7.0, they're not registered, so you get errors like this during the package install:
usage error: unrecognized option
Usage: update-fonts-alias DIRECTORY ...
When installing fonts in Xorg 7.0, they're not registered, so you get errors like this during the package install:
usage error: unrecognized option
Usage: update-fonts-alias DIRECTORY ...
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Thanks everyone for yout inputs, but I really have given up this one.
It kinda sets me back to late 90's when dis happend to me last time.
This is really my destiny, I will NEVER get X working.
It kinda sets me back to late 90's when dis happend to me last time.
This is really my destiny, I will NEVER get X working.
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Posted by Anonymous (81.216.xx.xx) on Thu 27 Apr 2006 at 11:55
Had the same problem until I started to dig into where all the symlinks pointed.
ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11 /usr/lib/X11/fonts
solved the problem for me.
Best regards
Peppe Bergqvist, peppe a peppesbodega nu
ln -s /usr/share/fonts/X11 /usr/lib/X11/fonts
solved the problem for me.
Best regards
Peppe Bergqvist, peppe a peppesbodega nu
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Posted by Anonymous (87.218.xx.xx) on Sun 19 Nov 2006 at 14:45
thxs a lot, that's works.
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Posted by Anonymous (81.86.xx.xx) on Sat 23 Dec 2006 at 17:50
hi
i hope you don't mind me asking, but how exactly did you solve this problem, im trying to do the same (instal fluxbox on an x-server) and am having what seems to be exactly the same problems :-(
tried some of the font things on this page, and that font linking thing, but to no avail?
thanks
i hope you don't mind me asking, but how exactly did you solve this problem, im trying to do the same (instal fluxbox on an x-server) and am having what seems to be exactly the same problems :-(
tried some of the font things on this page, and that font linking thing, but to no avail?
thanks
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