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So here is my question, when a new release comes out and a tool is still available but deprecated do you carry on using it, or do you migrate to the replacement tool?
Just curious...
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I think it depends very much upon the tool.
For example I'm often corrected when I refer to depreciated tools such as ifconfig. I am trying to make it a habit to use ip in preference these days, but it has proved pretty hard to get myself to switch. If I don't actively think "I need to bring up a new interface with ip" then my fingers type ifconfig before I've realised!
There aren't that many new tools that I've actively switched to, I guess xmms2 is the only one that comes to mind.
It is a shame that many guides haven't been updated to take advantage of using Etch properly - but to be honest I've been very disappointed by Sarge-specific guides in the past in much the same way. (Though I'm sure peoples intentions are good; I'd rather have no documentation than some of the "perfect setup" guides which seem to be commonly recommended ..)
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Other tools such as ifconfig I've not switched to as I don't use them all that often, so while I know I should upgrade I've not done anything.
I suppose there must be a whole batch of things that I shouldn't be using anymore that I didn't know had changed.
I've not been that impressed with the ultimate/perfect guides either, I'm not convinced they are all that perfect and I agree that following a recipe blindly isn't a good idea. Suggestions are useful but it helps if they are explained.
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I can get stuck in my ways I guess -- I still prefer to use apt-get, mostly because my fingers go into auto-pilot ;-)
However, there are some instances where I try a new tool once, and leap into always using that if I can, the prime example for me being using the iproute tools (ip link, ip addr, ip route, etc...) rather than (the crusty old) ifconfig I always used before.
"ip addr list eth0" is now in auto-pilot ;-)
Cheers.
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Going with the apt-* example: apt-get and friends still do for me what I want done, and I'm not aware of any significant detriment in using them or advantage in using something else. The thing I like most about apt-get is that it doesn't force me into a hierarchical list, and will just do the one thing I'm asking of it with minimal bother. That's what I expect of a computer, that's what I get.
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Aptitude will show you its UI if you just type aptitude, but if you type for example aptitude update; aptitude upgrade it runs just like apt-get.
The reason I switched to aptitude from apt-get was that during remove operations aptitude will also remove unused dependencies which is very cool.
This feature will work if you installed the package with aptitude though.
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