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Great Wussia
Posted by glanz on Wed 4 Apr 2007 at 14:58
Great Britain should really change its name to Great Wussia.
It has come to my attention that according to the latest studies, Britain has 4.2 million CCTV cameras, one for every 14 people in the country. Each person is caught on camera an average of 300 times daily.
Now the normal reaction to this "Orwellian Phenomenon" by any freedom loving people would be to sabotage and destroy as many of these cameras as possible. That would be the reaction of anyone with the least iota of courage left in their bones. But no, this is not happening in England. Perhaps British men have no balls and British women have lost the normal feminine courage endowed normally by nature. I wonder if all this can be blamed on Bush's poodle, Tony...
On the wall outside of Orwell's former residence overlooking Canonbury Square in Islington, North London, flat number 27B, where the author lived until his death in 1950, there are 32 CCTV cameras, scanning every move within a 200 metre radius
Think of it! Would Americans, for example, tolerate this? Perhaps at the beginning of Bush's second enthronement as King of AmeriKa, but surely not now, although this is debatable, mainly because Americans now have fewer individual rights than they had before the American Revolution, thanks to their current fascist administration. I like to think that Americans would use those cameras for target shooting..., especially in the "inner neighbourhoods" of the inner cities.
I can understand a few security cameras here and there to protect property and life, but when the whole principle of surveillance becomes a nation's base culture, and is accepted in docility by the habitant sheep, that nation is no better than some fundamentalist idiot and superstitious Arab nation like Iran, or even Saudi Arabia. May as well live in Libya or in some African dictatorship.
BTW, I'm not American or British, so feel free to totally disregard this post and know within your hearts that you will be protected even more by your American overlords when the NSA (National Security Agency) and the DHS (Department of Homeland Security) controls the WWW switches and keys and when ICANN becomes an official function of the American government.
So please, feel free everyone to feel all warm and cosy inside knowing that you are well protected from the "roaming poor" of the world and the ubiquitous "Evil Ones" of the dark side.
It has come to my attention that according to the latest studies, Britain has 4.2 million CCTV cameras, one for every 14 people in the country. Each person is caught on camera an average of 300 times daily.
Now the normal reaction to this "Orwellian Phenomenon" by any freedom loving people would be to sabotage and destroy as many of these cameras as possible. That would be the reaction of anyone with the least iota of courage left in their bones. But no, this is not happening in England. Perhaps British men have no balls and British women have lost the normal feminine courage endowed normally by nature. I wonder if all this can be blamed on Bush's poodle, Tony...
On the wall outside of Orwell's former residence overlooking Canonbury Square in Islington, North London, flat number 27B, where the author lived until his death in 1950, there are 32 CCTV cameras, scanning every move within a 200 metre radius
Think of it! Would Americans, for example, tolerate this? Perhaps at the beginning of Bush's second enthronement as King of AmeriKa, but surely not now, although this is debatable, mainly because Americans now have fewer individual rights than they had before the American Revolution, thanks to their current fascist administration. I like to think that Americans would use those cameras for target shooting..., especially in the "inner neighbourhoods" of the inner cities.
I can understand a few security cameras here and there to protect property and life, but when the whole principle of surveillance becomes a nation's base culture, and is accepted in docility by the habitant sheep, that nation is no better than some fundamentalist idiot and superstitious Arab nation like Iran, or even Saudi Arabia. May as well live in Libya or in some African dictatorship.
BTW, I'm not American or British, so feel free to totally disregard this post and know within your hearts that you will be protected even more by your American overlords when the NSA (National Security Agency) and the DHS (Department of Homeland Security) controls the WWW switches and keys and when ICANN becomes an official function of the American government.
So please, feel free everyone to feel all warm and cosy inside knowing that you are well protected from the "roaming poor" of the world and the ubiquitous "Evil Ones" of the dark side.
Comments on this Entry
Posted by Anonymous (122.162.xx.xx) on Thu 5 Apr 2007 at 09:20
Eh? What's the matter? Don't you trust the government?
It's alright, it's for security purposes.
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
It's alright, it's for security purposes.
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
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Thanks! That makes me feel all warm and cosy... and safe.
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Posted by Anonymous (213.164.xx.xx) on Tue 10 Apr 2007 at 08:44
> If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
Ha! I wish you were being sarcastic.
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters /2006/05/70886
Ha! I wish you were being sarcastic.
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters /2006/05/70886
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You would be surprised to see to what length some of the "uncivilized" countries in the world have gone to assure the integrity of it's people, some have even gone so far as many of the "civilized" countries have gone to remove the personal integrity from it's people. I am ofcourse not speaking of the many dictatorships around the globe.
Secondly, Americans have done little to stop the war on Iraq,Afghanistan a war completely created by fear of beeing attacked by a small group of people and one mans fear of loosing his cushy job. I'm no hero but atleast I have taken the time to see the places Americans today destroy. Cowardness and destruction are to me very closely combined with many Americans, I do know many fine upstanding American citizens but I also have met many whom I would gladly lend an ill fate many much more of a coward then many a citizen of Great Britain.
So what is my point? Well instead of a civil riot that you seem to suggest, why not think for a moment? Someone voted the "integrity removers" into the parlament, when enough people are SICK and tired of the way the personal integrity are handled someone will form a party and get rid of the problem, democracy work, I assume that Americans don't know that since they belive you can wage war under the name of democracy, "it's a pity"
Secondly, Americans have done little to stop the war on Iraq,Afghanistan a war completely created by fear of beeing attacked by a small group of people and one mans fear of loosing his cushy job. I'm no hero but atleast I have taken the time to see the places Americans today destroy. Cowardness and destruction are to me very closely combined with many Americans, I do know many fine upstanding American citizens but I also have met many whom I would gladly lend an ill fate many much more of a coward then many a citizen of Great Britain.
So what is my point? Well instead of a civil riot that you seem to suggest, why not think for a moment? Someone voted the "integrity removers" into the parlament, when enough people are SICK and tired of the way the personal integrity are handled someone will form a party and get rid of the problem, democracy work, I assume that Americans don't know that since they belive you can wage war under the name of democracy, "it's a pity"
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I do understand what you are stating here and I do agree with you. And there is a difference between civil disobedience and refusing to give one's lunch money to a bully, or tearing down the fence of a concentration camp.
Nothing good has come out of America since the present admin has been in power...
I find it hard to believe that Americans have simply rolled over in the clover and asked Bush to "do it again"... One mistake, I can understand. But a second action to prove the first wasn't really a "mistake" is unpardonable. The American government is destroying the world and not just world "peace", or what was left of it. Both the US and Britain have become surveillance societies and both are trying to impose their paranoia upon the world under threat of sanctions for non-compliance.
I couldn't give a sphluk about American laws, American patents, the "American Zeitgeist", or any of their values, all based on the power of money and control. "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" has a place in Superman Comic Books, but not in reality. I just find it really sad that the British government seems to be imposing these same values by proxy.
Nothing good has come out of America since the present admin has been in power...
I find it hard to believe that Americans have simply rolled over in the clover and asked Bush to "do it again"... One mistake, I can understand. But a second action to prove the first wasn't really a "mistake" is unpardonable. The American government is destroying the world and not just world "peace", or what was left of it. Both the US and Britain have become surveillance societies and both are trying to impose their paranoia upon the world under threat of sanctions for non-compliance.
I couldn't give a sphluk about American laws, American patents, the "American Zeitgeist", or any of their values, all based on the power of money and control. "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" has a place in Superman Comic Books, but not in reality. I just find it really sad that the British government seems to be imposing these same values by proxy.
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"Talking" CCTV cameras that tell off people dropping litter or committing anti-social behaviour are to be extended to 20 areas across England.
They are already used in Middlesbrough where people seen misbehaving can be told to stop via a loudspeaker, controlled by control centre staff.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/6524495.stm
They are already used in Middlesbrough where people seen misbehaving can be told to stop via a loudspeaker, controlled by control centre staff.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/6524495.stm
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When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
--
"It's Not Magic, It's Work"
Adam
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
--
"It's Not Magic, It's Work"
Adam
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Posted by emeitner (216.153.xx.xx) on Fri 6 Apr 2007 at 19:31
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The US is headed that way too. But, thankfully, with a bit more debate.
Boston , Chicago , Grand Rapids, , etc.
A few minutes of searching revleals new of many more municipal governments busily creating surveillance infrastructure.
Boston , Chicago , Grand Rapids, , etc.
A few minutes of searching revleals new of many more municipal governments busily creating surveillance infrastructure.
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This as with most "controversial" topics will have two sides all against or all for, with a small grey populous in the center. The ones against it will stay against it until it affects them directly. Example, someone is attacked on the street and the camera either aids them in that the perpetrator is caught, or conversely there is no camera and they become upset that there wasn't one.
There are numerous cameras all over the US, as stated by a previous poster. Most of the people that I have heard complain of this is because they don't want to get caught doing something. For example the majority of cameras are at street intersections and on highways. The biggest concern people seem to have is that they will get tickets for running reds or speeding. However if one looks at the other side of it, if you get into a wreck and the camera is the only witness, it could save your life, or it could prove that you were not at fault in an accident, or catch a hit-and-run.
Is it right for stores and such to have camera surveillance? It is for the same reason that they are put into public places, one as a deterrent, and two as a way to assist in catching delinquents. The possibility is always there for espionage, the infrastructure already exists on phone lines and network lines, so why worry about a camera?
-Tom
%s/Your Reality/My Own/g
There are numerous cameras all over the US, as stated by a previous poster. Most of the people that I have heard complain of this is because they don't want to get caught doing something. For example the majority of cameras are at street intersections and on highways. The biggest concern people seem to have is that they will get tickets for running reds or speeding. However if one looks at the other side of it, if you get into a wreck and the camera is the only witness, it could save your life, or it could prove that you were not at fault in an accident, or catch a hit-and-run.
Is it right for stores and such to have camera surveillance? It is for the same reason that they are put into public places, one as a deterrent, and two as a way to assist in catching delinquents. The possibility is always there for espionage, the infrastructure already exists on phone lines and network lines, so why worry about a camera?
-Tom
%s/Your Reality/My Own/g
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Nothing is wrong with a camera or cameras. It's the culture behind them and the true motives behind their use that bothers me. The use of cameras are merely a symptom of the sickness of the concept of "The Surveillance Society." The surveillance society is necessarily a society of snitches, of abuses on the popular level, and of revenge upon those who are not "socially acceptable" either by comportment or by sub-culture. It is a symptom of "The Police State", the true appellation for which "Surveillance Society" is merely a euphemism.
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