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Latest Firefox for Debian ?
Posted by pankaj_it09 on Tue 27 Feb 2007 at 08:43
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Hello,

Please give me the link for downloading latest Firefox for Debian.

Someone suggested me using Swiftfox instead of Firefox.

Is Swiftfox really better ?

 

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Posted by Steve (80.68.xx.xx) on Tue 27 Feb 2007 at 09:49
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apt-get install iceweasel

Or visit mozilla.org and download the latest binary release if you want the non-Debian-free version.

Steve

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Posted by pankaj_it09 (59.160.xx.xx) on Tue 27 Feb 2007 at 10:55
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Will it be safe if its non Debian ?

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Posted by Steve (80.68.xx.xx) on Tue 27 Feb 2007 at 11:03
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It is safe, but it won't get updated when the rest of your system does - so I'd suggest you use iceweasel instead.

Basically the Firefox people don't want Debian to use their browser with the changes we make, and call it firefox. So we renamed it. It has some differences between the "real" firefox, but mostly these are minor details. If you don't have a real need for the official browser use the packaged version.

If you do need something that is only in the real release then download it manually - but remember to keep it updated with any security releases which might be made.

Steve

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Posted by pankaj_it09 (59.160.xx.xx) on Tue 27 Feb 2007 at 11:52
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My Repository is fully CDROM so iceweasel is not present.

I want a link to my repository.

Is this link sufficient -->

http://http.us.debian.org/debian

I am outside US .

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Posted by ajt (204.193.xx.xx) on Tue 27 Feb 2007 at 14:29
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Which version of Debian are you running?

If you are on Stable (Sarge), then you are running the latest "stable" and "supported" Debian version. Debian doesn't upgrade versions of applications within a Debian stable version, they only apply security patches.

If you are running Testing (Etch at the moment) or later, then you should install iceweasel or iceape the Debian versions of Firefox or Sea Monkey. Debian will automtically keep them uptodate with security fixes and new features as they are released.

Updates in Testing will not arrive instantly, it takes a few days for fixes to arrive and depending on how close testing is to becoming stable, new versions may or may not arrive.

Unstable (Sid) gets new security and versions fairly quickly, but it's not
a stable platorm as it obviously gets new and potentially incompatible stuff all the time.

As Steve suggests you can also install the official version of Firefox directly from Mozilla's web site but you will need to keep it upto date yourself.

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Posted by pankaj_it09 (59.160.xx.xx) on Wed 28 Feb 2007 at 04:49
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I just know -->

Debian Sarge 3.1

How to find the other things like "Stable", "Supported" etc ?

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Posted by ajt (204.193.xx.xx) on Wed 28 Feb 2007 at 12:49
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Debian's web site explains how Debian works[1], however I'll put a potted summary here.

STABLE, this version is "supported" by the Debian community and only gets security fixes. If a new porgram comes out after the release of STABLE you won't get it in STABLE. (current version called Sarge)

TESTING, this version will become the next STABLE version. It evolves over time towards the next STABLE release. Generally as new programs come out, they are added to TESTING so that they can be tested. Once TESTING gets close to a full new version, there is a code-freeze and only critical fixes are added, and eventually it becomes the new STABLE version. (currently called Etch)

UNSTABLE, this version is in constant flux. All the new stuff goes in here almost as soon as it comes out. (always called SID)

EXPERIMENTAL, this has all sorts of new stuff and radical, and may not even be fully functional.

As a general rule people tend to run STABLE on servers, and either UNSTABLE or TESTING on desktop systems.

Each version of Debian has a codename during development, e.g. Etch, and once that goes to stable it gets a version number, but most people still call it by the code name. The code name are Toy Story character because Debian was heavily used at by Pixar people early on.

[1] http://www.debian.org/releases/

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Posted by pankaj_it09 (59.160.xx.xx) on Wed 28 Feb 2007 at 13:13
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So my system is STABLE ?

and I cannot iceweasel ?

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Posted by ajt (204.193.xx.xx) on Wed 28 Feb 2007 at 14:30
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If you have Debian 3.1 Sarge, then you are running the current STABLE version. It will be replaced by Debian 4.0 Etch shortly.

To run the latest version of a program not in STABLE, e.g. Firefox you would have to install program from the orginal source/binary e.g. the Mozilla.org version manually or try and install it from backports.org. Both of these solutions has a certain level of risk and are best avoided unless you know what you are doing.

Etch is close to being stable, and is an easy upgrade from Sarge. I see you are also interested in notDet and the version on Mono in Etch is probably what you would also want to install.

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Posted by pankaj_it09 (59.160.xx.xx) on Thu 1 Mar 2007 at 03:49
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Thats a good news !!

When will Debian 4.0 Etch be released ?


also you have not answered my one question -->

whether I can install iceweasel ?

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Posted by ajt (204.193.xx.xx) on Thu 1 Mar 2007 at 08:46
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Debian Etch will be released as Debian 4.0 when it's ready. There is no firm release date, but it is expected sometime in the next few months.

Iceweasel cannot be installed on Debian Sarge via the standard Debian Sarge repositories. If you must have a later version of Firefox/Iceweasel you will need to:

1) Upgrade from stable/Sarge to testing/Etch
2) Install Firefox/Iceweasel via backports.org if it's available
3) Install Mozilla Firefox directly from the mozilla.org

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